There could EASILY be as many ex-JWs as JWs. I saw the Pew survey results mentioned in another thread and checked it out... If that figure of 37% is true and it easily could be, the actual figures would likely be staggering.
Captain Obvious
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Cedars - just thinking aloud about big picture shunning statistics
by Fernando innothing serious just thinking aloud.... a moment ago i wondered what the big picture looks like.... how many millions of jws, have shunned how many millions of friends and family members, for how many billion hours a year, for how many years?.
how many parents are shunning their own children at the moment?.
how many children are shunning their own parents at the moment?.
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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"
by WuzLovesDubs inthats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.
i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.
he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".
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Oh and I forgot to add that him wanting to "continue the marriage" is just so he isn't the one to make the call. Seen it many times. Standard JW procedure. Pretend to be willing to "work on it", because "Jehovah hates a divorcing" while not lifting a finger to actually work on anything or repair problems. Basically sit and wait till the other can't take it anymore and leaves, thus making himself out to be the victim.
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"we were just talking...shes not free to remarry...we werent flirting or doing anything wrong"
by WuzLovesDubs inthats what my soon to be exhusband just said to me.
i finally after 25 years of dealing with him and the jws and a litany of other shit, told him two weeks ago i want out.
he wrote me a letter this week and made a list of allllll the things he hates: about my beliefs, the fact that i left jehovah, broke my vows to god, my hobbies, celebrations, what i watch on tv, my parenting, keeping the kids out of the jws, not having any friends....and then said well i dont hate "you".
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Captain Obvious
Sorry to hear about this Wuz. Like jgnat said, why waste any more emotion on him? Don't forget he hasn't held up his end of the bargain. Regardless of you getting the F out of the cult.... He very well may have been having an affair (albeit emotional) for some time now. Has he been sizing her up for that long? I'm not sure how you're feeling about it but I think that would hurt just as bad as a physical affair.
For all we know he may be right, you may be hard to love. Who knows but him? But the fact that like you said, he has all but abandoned me in this marriage...no dinners, no talking, no respect, no feelings towards me at all.... Has he spent all this time trying to improve himself and your relationship? Doesn't sound like it. Maybe he doesn't understand, who knows. But him getting all pissy about you breaking your vows to God and all that... Obviously he hasn't made an effort to understand.
Sorry but I get a little wound up about dudes like that. A marriage takes WORK, even if you share the same beliefs and are both very attractive. It doesn't matter. The little boy can't even express himself to your face, has to write you a letter to share his feelings.
Not to mention he gets to walk away from all this looking like the poor afflicted faithful JW whose evil mentally diseased apostate wife ABANDONED Jehovah and him. He will even believe that himself as he soaks up all the sympathy from the "friends".
Douche
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Knowing the Real Truth about the "truth" when you're stuck inside...
by OneDayillBeFree in...sucks.
(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).
i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.
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Captain Obvious
Nice thing about the military is its an automatic DA as well. Then you won't need to write that awkward letter...
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I remember a gorgeous sister was...........
by Iamallcool ini remember a gorgeous sister was making fun of her elder husband's big belly.
i do not know why she mentioned it to me about it in private outside of the kingdom hall.
any ideas why she mentioned about it to me?
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Captain Obvious
What she said ^
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Did You Expect To Live Thru The Great Tribulation & Never Die At All?
by minimus ini always had my doubts about that but i was at least hopeful that all would work out as they said.
i saw so many "faithful ones" who were true believers expire before they got the prize, that i started to think it probably wouldn't happen in my lifetime.. what a bunch of suckers, huh?.
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I dreramt about it, but the feelings of guilt about doing "unapproved practices" and barely any serve-us had me doubting.
It is strange though. When you're born-in and have never been presented with the substance for the shaky paradise earth doctrine, you just accept it as fact. We learn to not ask questions or really weigh the "facts". Honestly most born-ins that I know know less about the Borg, it's doctrines and history than most of the apostates on this site!
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Knowing the Real Truth about the "truth" when you're stuck inside...
by OneDayillBeFree in...sucks.
(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).
i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.
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Captain Obvious
I know how you feel about feeling like a hypocrite. If the two choices you present are the ONLY two choices (which they aren't), the option one would be best. You've already put in 2 years, what's a little more? Perhaps you should have been doing this all along. But there HAS to be more choices.
What about college? Could you go away to college and just fade? Would your folks help you out with that or at least help you get a student loan? Then you're not homeless and are pointing your life in the right direction.
Have you ever considered at least showing SOME of the things you have learned? Your dad is an elder and he has his mind made up for him, but what about your mum? Is she a little more reasonable? Having one sympathetic parent is a lot better tha zero.
Just some thoughts.
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Knowing the Real Truth about the "truth" when you're stuck inside...
by OneDayillBeFree in...sucks.
(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).
i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.
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Captain Obvious
I know how you feel about feeling like a hypocrite. If the two choices you present are the ONLY two choices (which they aren't), the option one would be best. You've already put in 2 years, what's a little more? Perhaps you should have been doing this all along. But there HAS to be more choices.
What about college? Could you go away to college and just fade? Would your folks help you out with that or at least help you get a student loan? Then you're not homeless and are pointing your life in the right direction.
Have you ever considered at least showing SOME of the things you have learned? Your dad is an elder and he has his mind made up for him, but what about your mum? Is she a little more reasonable? Having one sympathetic parent is a lot better tha zero.
Just some thoughts.
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Judge Rutherford Was Extremely Politically Neutral
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals,.
yesterday i received an email from a jwb visitor which pointed me to the 1934 yearbook.
i was completely shocked to see just how politically neutral the 2nd president of the watchtower society really was.. here's the article - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jehovahs-witness-history/are-jehovahs-witnesses-politically-neutral/.
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Captain Obvious
I'm a little confused after reading the Reader's Digest article in jgnat's post. The article was published in 1941, and it references the witnesses' changing the 1914 doctrine to mean Christ's rule would start WWI. I thought they didn't change this till 1943?
Could someone please clear that up?
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Be Thankful You Weren't in this Underground Cult! Literally Under-Ground
by Diest inmoscow (reuters) - seventy members of an islamist sect who have been living in an underground bunker without heat or sunlight for nearly a decade have been discovered living on the outskirts of the city of kazan in russia, local media reported.. the sect members included 20 children, the youngest of whom had just turned 18 months.
many of them were born underground and had never seen daylight until the prosecutors discovered their dwelling on august 1 and sent them for health checks.. a 17-year-old girl turned out to be pregnant.. religion was suppressed in the soviet union which collapsed in 1991, prompting various cults and sects to flourish in the vacuum that opened up.. the group - known as the "fayzarahmanist" sect - was named after its 83-year-old organiser fayzrahman satarov, who declared himself a prophet and his house an independent islamic state, according to a report by state tv channel vesti.. satarov was described as a former deputy to a sunni islamic cleric in the 1970s.
his followers were encouraged to read his manuscripts and most were banned from leaving their eight-storey underground bunker which had been dug in the basement of a building, vesti said.. prosecutors have opened a criminal investigation into the sect and have said it will be disbanded if it continues its illegal activities, such as stopping its members from seeking medical assistance or education.. no arrests have been made although police are likely to look into suspicions that some of the children were being abused.
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Captain Obvious
Persecuted! Ha. They just don't get that trying to outlaw them will just validate their delusions and make them work even harder.
I'm all for Russia cracking down on JWs, but this isn't the way to do it. They should at least make up a set of rights for everyone in their country, and punish groups who encroach on these rights. Either fine them, or remove their non-taxable status. Hit them where it hurts.
Though I'm not sure that's Russia's style.